turbo

[racin jasin]

to sleeve or not to sleeve

[Dat1BVtecN]

i dont get it Jason, setup? power? goals? reliabilty? come on man haha:cheers:

[Poop]

to sleeve or not to sleeve

Sleeve! unless you want to blow a hole through your cylinder wall. I've seen it happen before, not a pretty site.

btw what is your setup going to be anyways?

[Poop]

i dont get it Jason, setup? power? goals? reliabilty? come on man haha:cheers:

Compression!

[racin jasin]

allmotor baby 13 to 1

[Poop]

allmotor baby 13 to 1

that's what your compression is gonna be when you turbo?

[racin jasin]

k swap ftw

[Poop]

k swap ftw

are you drunk?

[Optimus]

that's what your compression is gonna be when you turbo?
it says allmotor lol

[2point]

Darton or Eagle Block and use your stock internals till they bust, fuck the sleeves and a big NO on the block guard thingy with holes in it. GSR motors have very high piston speeds for a reason = low displacement NA power. The walls were designed that way for a reason by honda meaning don't fuck it up with a cheap block guard.

Or just get a lil ol K series FTW :teeth:

[Poop]

it says allmotor lol

yeah i know that, but the thread is under the forced induction section, and the thread is titled turbo also he is asking if he should sleeve his block or not, and i asked what compression ratio he is aiming for and then he said all motor 13:1, and thats why i asked is that gonna be for turbo, because if so, his detonation rate is gonna be really high, and runs the possibility of blowing his motor very easily. then he said k swap ftw...im getting confused, thats why i asked him if he was drunk.

[Poop]

Darton or Eagle Block and use your stock internals till they bust, fuck the sleeves and a big NO on the block guard thingy with holes in it. GSR motors have very high piston speeds for a reason = low displacement NA power. The walls were designed that way for a reason by honda meaning don't fuck it up with a cheap block guard.

Or just get a lil ol K series FTW :teeth:

i would definately replace the pistons, and get some low compression ones at least, and some nice cams/cam gears/ springs and retainers, just so the head can breath a little better. i would still sleeve the block, i wouldnt say fuck it...they are important...thats a common part of turbo motors blowing because the cylinder walls werent strengthened enough to handle the power.

or yeah like he said get a k-series, and then start building that, but you wont have to worry as much with the k-series when running stock internals, and stock block.

[2point]

i would definately replace the pistons, and get some low compression ones at least, and some nice cams/cam gears/ springs and retainers, just so the head can breath a little better. i would still sleeve the block, i wouldnt say fuck it...they are important...thats a common part of turbo motors blowing because the cylinder walls werent strengthened enough to handle the power.

or yeah like he said get a k-series, and then start building that, but you wont have to worry as much with the k-series when running stock internals, and stock block.


I was offseting the Cost of an Eagle block as supposed to sleeves in not purchasing internal parts.

TONS of GSR motors are running a strong 275-300whp on stock block and internals. I've know of 3 people myself that put 20,000+ miles on a GSR motor turboed around 300whp daily driven. A lot of it is in a reliable tune, something many people don't get done.

If you want to take baby steps on a monster turbo system get the turbo you want and get a good hondata or AEM EMS and get the biatch tuned RIGHT!! Then upgrade your motor. If you start the other way around it will either cost you 2x as much just to get your car running or you will do too much too early and you will either blow something up or put your car into a wall.

I've known people that have done it both ways. The difference is that the people that turbo stock first the right way, have had less problems and have driven their cars a lot more than people that go ALL OUT.

There is a learning curve to owning a custom modified turbo setup. It's better to fuck up on a stock motor than a BUILT motor. Personally I'd rather slam a piston into a stock head than a port and polished head that cost $800 in labor alone.

Find some poor sucker selling a his project motor that he never got in b/c he ran out of money for the turbo kit. I've seen it many times.

[2point]

are you really looking for advice or just bullshitting Racin Jasin??

[Poop]

I was offseting the Cost of an Eagle block as supposed to sleeves in not purchasing internal parts.

TONS of GSR motors are running a strong 275-300whp on stock block and internals. I've know of 3 people myself that put 20,000+ miles on a GSR motor turboed around 300whp daily driven. A lot of it is in a reliable tune, something many people don't get done.

If you want to take baby steps on a monster turbo system get the turbo you want and get a good hondata or AEM EMS and get the biatch tuned RIGHT!! Then upgrade your motor. If you start the other way around it will either cost you 2x as much just to get your car running or you will do too much too early and you will either blow something up or put your car into a wall.

I've known people that have done it both ways. The difference is that the people that turbo stock first the right way, have had less problems and have driven their cars a lot more than people that go ALL OUT.

There is a learning curve to owning a custom modified turbo setup. It's better to fuck up on a stock motor than a BUILT motor. Personally I'd rather slam a piston into a stock head than a port and polished head that cost $800 in labor alone.

Find some poor sucker selling a his project motor that he never got in b/c he ran out of money for the turbo kit. I've seen it many times.


yeah, but i figured Jasin knows what he is doing...since he has had a Supercharged integra before, so i was just advising a way of doing it with bigger gains, and more reliability. thats just me though i would just do it my way, cuz i know what im doing...ive had experience and i have studied way more than enough on forced induction. but yeah i know alot of people who do it the way you stated. it depends on Jasin's budget i guess.

but yeah are you(racin jasin) really wanting advice...becuase your not taking this very seriously?

[Anthony]

K-Series awesome for turbo. Look at this stock K20a2....took bad he had a 41 PSI boost Spike!:eek:

http://www.omgzilla.com/blah/onyx_k20a2.wmv

[racin jasin]

are you really looking for advice or just bullshitting Racin Jasin??
this has turn into a pretty good thread. glad to see there are some people with knoledge.great advice.2piont you got it right.

[2point]

Thanks for the props

I have built many turbo kits in my day. Designed, custom fabbed, kitted, modded, tuned, blew up and etc.

Owned 3 turbo cars
owned supercharged truck
and will own another turbo or two in my day for sure

I want to get a k24 5spd setup and turbo the biatch in a 4dr integra at full weight. Yeehaawww KAAAABOOOOST:toothless
or maybe HUGE cams and port and polished head. hmm:cool:

[MANNY_FRESH]

this has turn into a pretty good thread. glad to see there are some people with knoledge.great advice.2piont you got it right.


Knowledge Jasin help you out with your spellin

[ososlohatch]

why would i take this question serious ?? what motor are you dealing with ?? juding by your immature post i would say you dont need sleeves cause your not smart enough to get to that power level anyways ( depening on motor ) i've seen a b17a1 (same motor i have) with a 100% stock bottom end put down 500+ http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1478127
of course there's proof too

[SanSational]

why would i take this question serious ?? what motor are you dealing with ?? juding by your immature post i would say you dont need sleeves cause your not smart enough to get to that power level anyways ( depening on motor)

BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA. wow, for a reply riddled with misspellings and erroneous statements, you sure have pwned yourself with "immaturity". It's already been confirmed that Jason was bullshitting, as you would have known had you read the posts before yours. Jason's been in the game for over ten years, has had a JRSC GSR and now he's got a fully built boosted GSR putting out 450-475 hp. He's got a great knowledge of motor work and power. Please go back and read Jason's posts. He went from asking about sleeving a boosted motor, to a 13:1 C/R to a k swap. Sorry, you're new. We're all sarcastic. :cheers:

[SanSational]

P.S. Welcome to JDMcity, the Iowa version of Hater-Tech

[erok]

why would i take this question serious ?? what motor are you dealing with ?? juding by your immature post i would say you dont need sleeves cause your not smart enough to get to that power level anyways ( depening on motor ) i've seen a b17a1 (same motor i have) with a 100% stock bottom end put down 500+ http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1478127
of course there's proof too:hithead:

its common courtesy not to flame the new guys right:wink:

[2point]

funny stuff! The thread did start out a lil weird so I can C where this guy is coming from.

All in all, Big Power = Big $ with any motor if you want it to stay around for a while.. .

[SanSational]

funny stuff! The thread did start out a lil weird so I can C where this guy is coming from.

All in all, Big Power = Big $ with any motor if you want it to stay around for a while.. .

yep. I don't think Jason was drunk. "he doesn't drink" lol

:cheers:

[PHAT MATT]

P.S. Welcome to JDMcity, the Iowa version of Hater-Tech

:roflmao:

[SanSational]

It's true, but I try not to hate. I try to inform. Sometimes I mis-inform, but that's ok.