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Charlie Moua 02/25/2012 07:00 AM

OEM bottom end LSV - Prodigy Racing Engine - Jordan Tuned 240whp
 
This is my engine builder, TOU's budget LSV build
It was made with simple parts to keep the cost down & as a graduation gift for his younger brother Jesse.


It's a pretty simple build with surprising results !

The setup pretty much consists of:
LS block & crank
LS rods + arp rod bolts
US ITR Pistons
Performer X IM
Blox 70mm throttle body
Red District Racing Ported Head
Rocket Motorsports Springs
Skunk2 Pro2 cams
Toda Header






Here are a couple pics of the build:

Shortblock Assembled
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...e-plate041.jpg

Rocket Motorsports "Snap-Fit" springs
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...eper/net-4.jpg

Pat Lehmann's stamp of approval! (Red District)
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...eper/net-3.jpg

US ITR Pistons, not PR3s or P30s lol
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...Picture021.jpg


This first dyno session @ MAP Jordan tuned, the setup made 230/153.
Tou realized that this was "above average" power for this engine size, compression, and especially on pump gas.

As good as the results were, I knew that there was still room for more power!

Being that its an N/A setup, I just couldn't turn up the boost so I had to go back to the drawing board to figure out what areas of the build could use improvements without ripping up the internals again.



I decided that a "reworked" intake manifold could in fact give it some more gains at least on the top end.

Charlie who was at both dyno sessions and saw what this engine/setup was putting down, referred me to Chris at MAP. We talked about the changes that I wanted to be made to the Performer X in order to get a little more power out of it. Chris assured me that MAP was going to be able to provide that service so I went ahead with it. They had the manifold modded/ cut-out/ and fully ported in a couple of days.

Here are a couple before/after pics:

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...eper/net-5.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...r/P1243290.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...r/P1243293.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...r/P1253299.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...r/P1253300.jpg

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...r/IMG_5033.jpg

We were back at MAP last Thursday for a dyno session and I will let the results speak for themselves:

Run009 = stock Px
Run024 = MAP modded Px
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...eforeAfter.jpg

Gains were 10 whp peak, more like 15+ whp after 9k rpms though :eek:

I have some more things in mind already and plan to make some more changes and do more testing. There's another 15 whp easy in it, and thats before changing over to E-85 :wink:

**** Yes, this includes CHANGING out the Pro2 cams for some ROCKET MOTORSPORTS cams :cool:

This just goes to show that if you know what you are doing, you don't need the craziest amount of compression or budget to make good power.

Charlie Moua 02/25/2012 07:00 AM

Re: OEM bottom end LSV - Prodigy Racing Engine - Jordan Tuned 240whp
 
"I wanted to thank Jordan, his work is proven & if I don't tune it myself I will probably never go anywhere else again.

This graph proves it!

This is a graph of my personal setup that I ran before (Not the engine in this thread).


Run file 001 was a tune from another local shop and by the 9th run, Jordan already had VTEC lowered and the numbers beat all around, nuff said! "......... Tou of P.R.E

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...eforeAfter.jpg

ososlohatch 03/06/2012 11:04 AM

Re: OEM bottom end LSV - Prodigy Racing Engine - Jordan Tuned 240whp
 
ok i just wet my self..... 240 whp on a 1.8 with cast pistons... :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Good shit fellas. I need me one of those fancy red district heads :) What did map charge to do the im ??

Charlie Moua 03/06/2012 12:44 PM

Re: OEM bottom end LSV - Prodigy Racing Engine - Jordan Tuned 240whp
 
This is one of maps sponsored cars so it didn't cost us anything.
it did required about 6hours of work.

most shops charge about $60-80 per hour for fab rates. lol

ososlohatch 03/06/2012 01:29 PM

Re: OEM bottom end LSV - Prodigy Racing Engine - Jordan Tuned 240whp
 
dang, ya'll get the homie hook up :)

Charlie Moua 03/06/2012 05:11 PM

Re: OEM bottom end LSV - Prodigy Racing Engine - Jordan Tuned 240whp
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ososlohatch (Post 277019)
dang, ya'll get the homie hook up :)

lol i have no homies ...i've been solo for the past 9yrs.
just this past year as all my past efforts been paying off and people are helping me out.

MAP is a great company but they never do anything for free unless I return them the favor. lol

IF your serious, i could ask Chris how much he wants to charge for the same modded PreformanceX IM....might be in the $600 range though(includes IM)

tmodelt 12/24/2012 11:00 AM

Re: OEM bottom end LSV - Prodigy Racing Engine - Jordan Tuned 240whp
 
What type of car did you put this in? Also I am currently working on a LSV and have heard bad things about running my ls block that high did you have any issues? Durability etc? Thanks great write up.

Charlie Moua 12/24/2012 05:13 PM

Re: OEM bottom end LSV - Prodigy Racing Engine - Jordan Tuned 240whp
 
This is in Jesse's crx


what "bad" things did you here about LSV?
also is it from credible source or just from hearsay?

tmodelt 12/26/2012 08:26 AM

Re: OEM bottom end LSV - Prodigy Racing Engine - Jordan Tuned 240whp
 
I have just been reading online and have found mixed reviews from people who have owned or built them before. Most are speaking of durability and stroke ratio vs just buying a gsr motor.

Charlie Moua 12/26/2012 01:44 PM

Re: OEM bottom end LSV - Prodigy Racing Engine - Jordan Tuned 240whp
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tmodelt (Post 311562)
I have just been reading online and have found mixed reviews from people who have owned or built them before. Most are speaking of durability and stroke ratio vs just buying a gsr motor.

rsr differnece between gsr & LS have very very little to do with reliablity or engine longevity.

if you are searching online, the RSR arugement has pretty popular debate back in 2002-2005 eara, but really been proven wrong afterwards.

H22APWRD94 12/26/2012 05:39 PM

Re: OEM bottom end LSV - Prodigy Racing Engine - Jordan Tuned 240whp
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Moua (Post 311577)
rsr differnece between gsr & LS have very very little to do with reliablity or engine longevity.

if you are searching online, the RSR arugement has pretty popular debate back in 2002-2005 eara, but really been proven wrong afterwards.

Yup. Most guys going fast in turbo cars are running LS crank/rod combos turning them to 10,500. All about rod bolt strength when you get up to that kind of speed.

99eclipse 12/26/2012 09:19 PM

Re: OEM bottom end LSV - Prodigy Racing Engine - Jordan Tuned 240whp
 
ls/vtec is just as reliable as the parts and how well its set up, ive seen some janky ls/v set ups and then ive seen some pretty badass ones,
And well this one look super badass keep up the work! :thumbsup:


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