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Old 10/31/2011, 09:55 AM   #1
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Let me start that this is the first time that I have to deal with drums and I conclude WHAT A PAIN IN THE ASS!!!!

I have a 1994 civic CX, that definitely needed brakes.

I was able to take out the pads and assemble everything inside the drum my problem is when i put back the drum it does not "fit". I wrestle and wrestle with it and I was not able to get it in. So I started dissembling everything again putting one piece then the drum, another piece then the drum and everything is fine until I add the two last springs.

Anyone have any suggestion on what could I be doing wrong? I will try to close more the adjuster and see if that solves it.

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Old 10/31/2011, 10:17 AM   #2
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Its normally in the adjuster. But you can always find digram online on how to do drum brakes for ur model. N Idk if u have ur E brake up. Or if its hooked on right now. But it should be down. Let alone. Maybe ur e brake is ran by a different set of shoes. I would have to see it to know. But im just shooting some thoughts out for u.

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Old 10/31/2011, 02:06 PM   #3
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Thanks man, Ill play with the adjuster a little bit more.
But This thing is really annoying.

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Old 11/01/2011, 04:18 PM   #4
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Thanks man, Ill play with the adjuster a little bit more.
But This thing is really annoying.
From the sound of it looks like the adjuster is the culprit, like crxh22honda said. Not sure if you did this also, but make sure to grease up all the areas the brake shoes contact as well and if needed, grease up the adjuster pieces in the small cylinder as well to prevent it from getting seized. You'll also want to have someone in the car test out the e brake VERY slowly......don't even engage it all the way....just make sure it is doing its job on both sides. If you do it all the way or too quick it can make those shoes fly off or come off without notice......so be careful.

Drum brakes can be easy to do if you have the right tools and most importantly.....PATIENCE....lol

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Old 11/02/2011, 12:09 PM   #6
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I think my problem was patience.

I was able to get them in but now I have another problem :)

I started purging the left side and it got better, but when I moved to the right side, the little thing where you purge it broke off(Thanks rust). So my question is can i purge it one side or do i need to buy the cylinder to purge in both sides?

Thanks for all the help!!

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I think my problem was patience.

I was able to get them in but now I have another problem :)

I started purging the left side and it got better, but when I moved to the right side, the little thing where you purge it broke off(Thanks rust). So my question is can i purge it one side or do i need to buy the cylinder to purge in both sides?

Thanks for all the help!!
Do it right by buying the other side....will help keep uneven wear from happening on the side where it wasn't purged. Plus keep in mind that down the road you'll be doing this over again. This way it is all good to go for next interval.
I would suggest buying a can of lithium spray grease and every few months spray those areas to keep rust away and help you get them off. I do the same with polyurethane bushings so they don't dry out on me in the future, preventative stuff like that helps not have to buy parts over and over!


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Old 11/02/2011, 08:28 PM   #8
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yeah, that's called a wheel cylinder. if you can't get the bleeder screw out to replace it then you have to buy a new wheel cylinder. and yes they can be specific to the left or right side.

more than likely you will be better off buying a new cylinder they're probably 20 bucks or so. then the next time you do brakes you won't have this problem.

also, there's usually a rubber cap that goes over the bleeder screw to help keep debris from building up and causing this problem.

and the good news is that you get to take the brakes all apart again on that side.

here's a great tool to use when doing drum brakes. you put one side in the drum adjust so the fingers are touching both sides of the drum in the center of the drum. and then you try to slide the other end over the brake shoes. if it doesn't fit or fit snug then you know you have to adjust the brake pads in or out so that the drum will slide over:

http://www.justanswer.com/uploads/gr..._110589965.gif

now, that you got the drum on you want to make sure there is not too much drag or that it is too tight. while holding the drum in snugly against the hub assembly, give the drum a couple of turns back and forth. you should hear and feel a slight noise if the drum is too hard to turn then it's too tight.

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Old 11/02/2011, 08:30 PM   #9
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Personal experience speaking. I went the cheap way n just got one side. Worked fine for awhile then the side wore down to fast. N it pulled when hitting the brakes. So I had to get a new set of shoes n brake pusher out thing ( lol brain Fart ). Which it all ended up costing more money in the long run.

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Old 11/02/2011, 09:02 PM   #10
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Well I went the "expensive" way and it got more expensive, the brake line is rusty and I need a new one =) Does anyone know where to get it. I looked at Advance Auto parts and i dont seem to find the one that I need. I need the one that goes from the hose to the cylinder and it is made of metal.

Thanks again to everyone for all the help =)

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Old 11/03/2011, 06:46 AM   #11
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Lol I was in high school then without a job it was expensive to me then lol.

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Old 11/03/2011, 12:14 PM   #12
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Well I went the "expensive" way and it got more expensive, the brake line is rusty and I need a new one =) Does anyone know where to get it. I looked at Advance Auto parts and i dont seem to find the one that I need. I need the one that goes from the hose to the cylinder and it is made of metal.

Thanks again to everyone for all the help =)
You might try honda. But sometimes you have to make those. You can get brake line at O'Reilly's, we called it kink free, I don't know what they officially call it but the manufacturer code they use is BLE. You can bend this line with your hands, you don't need benders like the regular brake line. But you will need a double flare kit and possibly some fittings, you can use the old fittings if they're still good. And O'Reilly's does rent these, but they're not the best (I think you put down a deposit and they refund it when you return the tool). If you've never used one it will take some trial and error. Just keep the original line in as good as shape as possible so you have a template to copy.

To be honest, no matter what honda wants for them...buy it. It will save you a headache.


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About to attempt my first time changing drum brakes. I hope mine aren't that much of a pain in the ass

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