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Old 05/03/2011, 11:43 AM   #1
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i was just wondering what it would take to convert a automatic transmission car into a five speed. i know that you definitely would need to swap tranny's and do a little interior work, add a shift linkage system, but would that be all? Also would it be worth the trouble to do all that work?

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Old 05/03/2011, 11:59 AM   #2
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gotta swap the pedal asseemblies out. its best to use them from the same car you have. its not a fun job.


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What car? Year?


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Old 05/05/2011, 11:56 PM   #4
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no specific make and model. just in general.

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Old 05/06/2011, 12:47 AM   #5
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no specific make and model. just in general.
Its much easier with an older cable clutch transmission.There is already a place marked on the firewall to drill the hole for the cable.It sucks removing the dash to put in the pedal assembly.Hydraulic clutch is a little more tricky.Lots of write-ups on this if you google it.

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Old 05/06/2011, 08:50 PM   #6
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im doing an auto to manual right now on my 99 integra. the brake pedal is only one bolt, one pin, and one spring. but took me 2 hours to change out. i didnt take the dash apart. where the clutch pedal goes... theres an interlock control unit that sits there. just unbolt it and tuck it up higher so you can put your cluctch pedal in. run your clutch lines all the way around. there was a metal piece that hangs too low where your auto shift cable runs through. i just drilled out the spot welds and it falls out. you need a special auto to manual tranny mount or cut and weld a manual tranny mount on. the mount is around 150 bucks. you need a manual flywheel. clutch pressure plate... Manual trans. clutch master and slave cylinder. back t mount

you end up with a few plugs on your harness that you dont use. its only the ones that the auto tranny needed.

now this is for 92+ civics 94+ integras.

oh yeah dont be so quick about chopping up your wires connecting on the auto shifter.

its easier to not chop them and trick it by keeping it in park so your car can start without wiring the clutch pedal in

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Old 08/12/2012, 11:31 AM   #7
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^^^ how do you "trick" it. I haven't cut anything nor will I and i have all the auto and manual stuff.


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Old 08/12/2012, 12:57 PM   #8
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In the auto shifter harness there is a small black/blue,thick black/green and a thick black/red. Solder those 3 together. The car will always thank.its in park. What year car are u doing it on.


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Or just keep it in park

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Old 08/12/2012, 04:20 PM   #10
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In the auto shifter harness there is a small black/blue,thick black/green and a thick black/red. Solder those 3 together. The car will always thank.its in park. What year car are u doing it on.
Yea I saw it. It's a 93 civic ex. Took 30 seconds to realize that after I actually looked at it.

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Or just keep it in park
That's what I'm probably going to do and just hide all the wiring. I don't want to cut any wires. The car is too clean and I'm way too much of an OEM guy to want to do too much damage and start hacking.

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Old 08/13/2012, 03:28 PM   #12
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Lol no offense, but where do you plann on hiding an entire automatic shifter? There's no real room under the dash.

I just did the swap on my DA, it's pretty easy, just a little time consuming. Luckily I was doing an interior swap at the time and already had my dash out. You'll loose cruise control and reverse lights as well, unless you splice some wires.

You CAN, however, get some connectors from another honda, remove the pins from the sockets, and repin everything together. But keeping track of all that, is pretty ridiculous. I soldered my reverse and park wires and shrink wrapped them in under 5 minutes.

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Lol no offense, but where do you plann on hiding an entire automatic shifter? There's no real room under the dash.

I just did the swap on my DA, it's pretty easy, just a little time consuming. Luckily I was doing an interior swap at the time and already had my dash out. You'll loose cruise control and reverse lights as well, unless you splice some wires.

You CAN, however, get some connectors from another honda, remove the pins from the sockets, and repin everything together. But keeping track of all that, is pretty ridiculous. I soldered my reverse and park wires and shrink wrapped them in under 5 minutes.

Cheers mate, hope it all works out for you! It was actually a fun swap
You can remove the thing that slides on the shifter (the electrical piece) while it's in park and put it wherever you want. Shit I could put it in drive and reverse and still use that stuff if I wanted to.
But I agree with the cruise and reverse lights if I don't. I'll be getting a donor manual trans integra. Hopefully. I'll just have to use a brain cell or two and figure it out.
For the sake of simplicity do you mind explaining the comment of just soldering your park and reverse lights?


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Ok... When you physically put the shifter in park... It just connects yhe wire connection. Same with reverse. If u cut those wires and splice them together... Park by it self and reverse separate from park... It does the same thing. Well the reverse... I just wired it to the reverse sensor and not together.

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Yeah I thought about at some point grabbing a full body harness off a manual, but It all depends how much I want to rip apart (again). As far as soldering, there are a few connectors plugging into the shifter that need to be cut apart and soldered. There's a write up, but it's for a DA, so I'm not sure how much will crossreference.

Here's a link to a discussion about it.

and here's a write-up on the swap itself.


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Yeah I thought about at some point grabbing a full body harness off a manual, but It all depends how much I want to rip apart (again). As far as soldering, there are a few connectors plugging into the shifter that need to be cut apart and soldered. There's a write up, but it's for a DA, so I'm not sure how much will crossreference.

Here's a link to a discussion about it.

and here's a write-up on the swap itself.


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Ok... When you physically put the shifter in park... It just connects yhe wire connection. Same with reverse. If u cut those wires and splice them together... Park by it self and reverse separate from park... It does the same thing. Well the reverse... I just wired it to the reverse sensor and not together.
There's a sentence in the link to a write up below that states that if you make it think it's in park all the time the check engine light will flash because it doesn't think the trans is there. Is this true or did I read it wrong? I see there's a shift interlock module where the clutch pedal mounts to the firewall as well. I'm assuming wiring diagrams will solve most of my questions but I'm simply looking for personal experience/what your .02 is right now.
If I'm reading this right then the reverse switch on the m/t is just a open or closed switch which carries current. You used this to make the reverse lights work when put into reverse. If that's true it sounds easy enough.

I did not much like that write up in the link. It seemed pretty vague... At least to someone without that personal experience.


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The cel shouldn't flash if you run a manual ecu. But thats 96-00. 92-95 i cant remember if there is a separate module for the auto trans. The only.light i coild think of that would blink would be the D4 light. Bit if you put a manual cluster in then no news to worry...

As for reverse. lights, idk i never wired them in. I. just use my hazards


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I just read this.. its basically the same as 96-00
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2090074 this may help out since its for 92-95


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I just read this.. its basically the same as 96-00
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2090074 this may help out since its for 92-95
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Will do. Do you work at central imports? I'm not very familiar with the shop or who works there I just see it in a couple sigs.


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There's not a lot to the write-up but there also isn't a lot of things to swap over. There's a ton of other write ups, this was just the one I used the most. Hardest part is the wiring, which is easy haha. Make sure you get proper bolts from a donor car. I couldn't find them and ended up spend an embarrassing amount at the dealership for them.


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