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Old 04/07/2011, 09:56 PM   #1
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Wrench ...:::Official S14 5 Speed Swap Thread:::...

Monday is the official start for the 5 speed swap on my kouki! getting a few misc parts over the weekend but have most of it right here also doing some more suspension work. i will do my best to take as many photos as possible while doing said tasks to help out anyone else considering doing the swap.





Heres a general price list of the important stuff.
-transmission is from a 95 (with short shifter) with no crank sensor- $80
-s14 driveshaft- $50
-crossmember- $30
-5 speed pedals- $120
-Exedy clutch kit- $250
-Exedy clutch master and slave- $40
-15lb flywheel- $50
ill try to get the prices for the rest of the stuff when i can find my receipts.


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Old 04/11/2011, 08:31 PM   #2
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Day one down! spent the afternoon dropping the auto trans and doing my homework on some wiring. tomorrow will be pedal install and some wiring work.


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Hey Cody! This is Alec La Velle from Facebook lol I just realized it was you haha


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Hey Cody! This is Alec La Velle from Facebook lol I just realized it was you haha
haha dude ive known this all along. thats why i added you on facebook


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Default Re: ...:::Official S14 5 Speed Swap Thread:::...

removed the rest of the automatic components (minus the ecu and harness, which i plan to run for now) and have the new pedal assembly ready to mount.
tomorrow will be pedal install, flywheel, and maybe clutch if it comes tomorrow...depends on UPS and how well their day is going lol
the only immediate problem i am facing is the crank angle sensor. many who have done the swap say that it is NOT needed to run like most vehicles because its only use is to diagnose misfire, but will throw a CEL... a spot could be drilled out for it on the bell housing, but finding the exact dimensions to make the hole so it functions properly is near to impossible unless you have a bell housing to reference from (which i do not or i obviously would have used it). and it is raised about an 1/8th of an inch where the sensor goes...so i have no idea if it would fit properly even if you drilled a hole to the exact dimensions. so if anyone has any suggestions there, let me know. otherwise i plan to install and try it first without attempting to drill a hole.


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flywheel, and 5 speed pedals installed...some more wiring done. going to drill out the hole for the crank sensor tomorrow. clutch still isn't here yet...more pictures will be up tomorrow!


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thanks oscar! come by the shop anytime and check it out or lend a hand


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still waiting on the clutch. but i discovered that a pair of vise grips and a ball peen hammer work very nicely for getting the A/T adapter bushing out..since you cant successfully use a puller because there is not enough lip to catch on. just tightly attach the grips to the bushing and tap the vise grips with a hammer.
P.S. a lot of people say to take it out using a dremel. if someone tells you to use a dremel, dont listen. thats a stupid idea. you can potentially do more harm than good.


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Good advice! You will love the 5MT.

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I just use a chisel to take the pilot bushing out.

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Good advice! You will love the 5MT.
im getting pretty excited. im ready to have it done now! lol
and dennis that was my next attack if the vise grips didnt work. but surprisingly it worked really well.


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well, had a few minor set backs...an unexpected funeral and a couple parts issues..
but worked on some wiring today.. so if what we did today works, it should start and have reverse lights


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well folks, here it is! the finished product.
finished it just in time for our auto tech car show!
she was dirty but they still saved me a spot haha

ill post better pics tomorrow and go through some of my own quirks i discovered along the way..still a few things to finish up. but for now, here's a few pics from today (and a couple teasers of our conquest/starion project.





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i got a surprise today when i couldnt pull my key out. i had forgotten about the safety lock that ran from the ignition to the old auto shifter. lol


my dog hates me cause i stole her chew toy... shift knob didnt come in the mail yet.


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just wanted to go through a few things i was thinking about today..
although i really didnt get to take many pictures since things were kinda crazy around the shop, i did think of a few tips for those wanting to do this.
first off, do not be discouraged! it CAN be done. when i first l looked into doing this, i thought it seemed impossible. But fret not! the hardest part of the whole thing is sourcing the parts. Lucky for me, i have some crazy asian friends down in oklahoma city that drag and drift s14's so they hooked me up with some leftover parts. The hardest of all the parts to source are by far the pedals....EVERYBODY and their dog wants them. and when you do find them, they are usually pricey. ive seen a brake and clutch pedal go for over $250. i was able to pick some up from a guy down in vegas for pretty reasonable. A lot of things are interchangeable between s13 and s14...but just make sure you match appropriate parts. i wont get into all of what works with what and what doesnt cause i could be here all day. but a quick search on nico will answer any of those questions.
As long as you have the basic necessary parts,
-trans
-driveshaft
-crossmember
-pedals
-master cylinder
-slave cylinder
-clutch line
-dust plate
-clutch kit
-flywheel
and have a general knowledge of how a transmission is removed, its pretty straight forward.

Some random tips i thought of along the way:

*first of all, STAY ORGANIZED! nothing is more frustrating than losing little pieces of this or that or bolts. i would suggest going to walmart and buying a couple small tackle boxes, green tape, and a sharpie to label things and stay on the ball.

*Drain as much of the auto trans as you can before you drop it out. anything to reduce weight on that baby, cause it is significantly heavier than the manual. also, dont forget that the torque converter could fall out when you drop the trans.. dont let it slam your toes!

*When putting the manual trans in, the best way is loosen the motor mounts and jack the engine up. you WILL NOT be able to stab it in properly if you dont. it will not clear the chassis.
we were pressed for time so we didnt drop the exhaust for fear of breaking bolts (which would have definitely happened). if you loosen the mounts, jack up the engine, and take the exhaust off the hangers you can tilt the engine enough to stab it in. but take a tie strap and let the exhaust hang on that as not to put added stress on the manifold.

*Check your subframe bushings and suspension parts while you have it in the air. almost EVERY 240 out there has been abused...chances are, yours wont be an exception. even if it is an automatic..(lucky mine originally came from an old man..ha!)

*Nissan already has marked spots on the inside of the firewall for your master cylinder. hooray for awesomeness! so all you need to do there is drill out the holes.

* The most common question asked is "will it function without a crank sensor?"
YES. 240's WILL start and run without it. But be warned, you will have some cold start issues. it will stutter and die upon start up. but give it a little gas, and its just fine. I drilled a hole and spaced mine (since my trans was from a 95...mid 95 and up, nissan started putting sensors in the bellhousing). but mine is currently not plugged in and the car functions fine.

any questions, just ask and i will do my best to answer.


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Default Re: ...:::Official S14 5 Speed Swap Thread:::...

Great work on the swap. Do you need 2003 350Z wheels? I have a set from my old S14. It looks baller on S14. It even has brand new Bridgestone Potenza 960AS. 225/40/R18 front 245/40/R18 rear.

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Great work on the swap. Do you need 2003 350Z wheels? I have a set from my old S14. It looks baller on S14. It even has brand new Bridgestone Potenza 960AS. 225/40/R18 front 245/40/R18 rear.
actually i was thinkin the other day that some Z wheels would look nice! pm me a price sir! or text me. 641-660-2151


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