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Old 11/08/2010, 02:57 PM   #1
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hello i was wondering if some one could give me a rough est. on how much it would cost to tune my 1993 integra b18a1 that i just put a turbo on Thank you

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Old 11/08/2010, 04:04 PM   #2
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Figure 2-3 hours for tuning and I think I read somewhere they are currently running special tuning prices until the end of this year. I could be wrong. Otherwise tuning is $120 /hr at Wrenches.


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Here is a recent post from Wrenches: Well we had a pretty good turnout for our dyno special so in the hopes of packing our dyno we decided to reduce our dyno rates for the rest of the year and they are as follows:

We tune $90 an hour
You tune $60 an hour
3 runs $60
Rent the dyno for a day (8 hours) $450. Need some pretty good lead time for this.

Guys, you need to keep in mind that if we have to do stuff to get the car ready for the dyno there will be extra fees for that. So the best thing to do is make sure your ready for the dyno. Some simple things to do:

1. No check engine lights, make sure the engine light works and fix any codes.
2. No fluid leaks, you piss on my dyno - you clean it or I piss in your car!!
3. Check your I/C pipes, make sure they are tight.
5. No exhaust leaks, check the wastegate, turbo and exhaust mani gaskets.
6. Check your wiring, just make sure it's good, secure and done correctly.
7. Check your tires.
8. Prefer a good alignment.
9. Make sure cooling fans work.
10. Make sure gauges work, especially the temp gauge.
11. Make sure boost controllers are installed correctly, we did have one installed wrong and it blew the freeze plugs out the head because it was basically throwing the max amount of boost from a Holset turbo...it was pretty cool actually!!!

If you know anyone beating these prices, you let me know.

So you guys that missed the special, get your shit together and gives a call, 280-3485.


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Old 11/08/2010, 06:29 PM   #4
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thanks very much and i gotta couple questions what do they mean by you tune thank you

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Old 11/08/2010, 06:32 PM   #5
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And also not sure if this needs to be in this form or in FI but is it a must to get a new ecu or chipped ecu if i'm running low boost?

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Old 11/08/2010, 07:38 PM   #6
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thanks very much and i gotta couple questions what do they mean by you tune thank you
The Tuner at Wrenches is Brian ....But if you know how to tune the car yourself or have someone you can bring in instead, then you just pay $60/hr.

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And also not sure if this needs to be in this form or in FI but is it a must to get a new ecu or chipped ecu if i'm running low boost?
Im guessing you installed the turbo kit and didnt mess with the ECU so far? Wrenches or anyone else for that matter wont be able to tune it. Id say get your ECU chipped or one thats already chipped.


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Old 11/08/2010, 08:26 PM   #7
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alright thank you for all your information you guys really help people out and do they order ecu's cause my friend which has a turbo integra took his car there and idk if he ordered a ecu but he said they can? is that true? and what ecu should i be looking for

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Old 11/09/2010, 09:49 AM   #8
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alright thank you for all your information you guys really help people out and do they order ecu's cause my friend which has a turbo integra took his car there and idk if he ordered a ecu but he said they can? is that true? and what ecu should i be looking for
Im not sure if they can do that, but if your friend said so, then maybe. You can try asking your buddy how he got his ecu ready for tuning.

Since you have a 1993 integra, which is obd1 already, Im pretty sure you can get that chipped. Or you can try looking for a chipped P28 for sale on here (pretty common on this site)...or pretty much any obd1 chipped.


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Old 11/09/2010, 03:46 PM   #9
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Wrench's can chip your OBD1 ecu for you. They can also order one if you want a secondary ECU. Wrench's orders their ECU's from Phearable.net, a very reputable place. I obtained my P28 ECU chipped on C ROM E with a basemap from David Vega/Phearable.net. Great service, used trackable mail and the ECU came pretty quickly. The basemap sucked and hindered my gas mileage but Wrench's was able to even out the A/F ratio and I'm currently getting 29+ miles to the gallon on spirited driving.

Thanks for the correction.

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Wrench's can chip your OBD1 ecu for you. They can also order one if you want a secondary ECU. Wrench's orders their ECU's from Phearable.net, a very reputable place. I obtained my P28 ECU chipped on CHROME with a basemap from David Vega/Phearable.net. Great service, used trackable mail and the ECU came pretty quickly. The basemap sucked and hindered my gas mileage but Wrench's was able to even out the A/F ratio and I'm currently getting 29+ miles to the gallon on spirited driving.
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Old 11/09/2010, 08:45 PM   #11
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how much am i looking at for a chipped ecu from wrenchs id rather get one from them since they know what they are looking for and what not lol

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Old 11/10/2010, 08:41 AM   #12
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how much am i looking at for a chipped ecu from wrenchs id rather get one from them since they know what they are looking for and what not lol
Everything said is true except I don't get ECU's from Phearable. We don't socket ECU's, meaning we don't actually install the device that holds the chip in the ECU.

Like someone else said, basemaps, no matter where you get them is a crap shoot. Seen shit ones and have seen good ones.

I can get you a chipped P28, and we should have a basemap that will work good enough to start and get the car to the dyno for $245 including shipping.


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Old 11/10/2010, 09:33 PM   #13
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okay i was also told that i should be good with a stock ecu if i only plan on running 5 psi is this true?

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Old 11/14/2010, 03:21 AM   #14
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okay i was also told that i should be good with a stock ecu if i only plan on running 5 psi is this true?
Make sure your car has no engine lights and everything is tighten up.. and make sure you will be able to hold and push the boost amount you want.. get the correct wastegate spring and boost controller and do a boost pressure check..


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Old 11/15/2010, 10:35 AM   #15
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okay i was also told that i should be good with a stock ecu if i only plan on running 5 psi is this true?
Not something I would do. it needs to be tuned even at 5 psi. and to do that you need somekind of tuning ability. the easiest way is a chipped ECU and tune with crome.


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Old 11/15/2010, 09:37 PM   #16
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Not something I would do. it needs to be tuned even at 5 psi. and to do that you need somekind of tuning ability. the easiest way is a chipped ECU and tune with crome.


You will have no regrets once your car is tuned and running correctly. It may cost some money to get it ready and tuned up, but its all worth it


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Old 11/16/2010, 02:18 PM   #17
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Thanks for all you input I'm gonna get my ecu chipped. Then take my carto wrenches to get tuned and what not. Thanks for helpin me out. (A newbie). Lol

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Old 11/16/2010, 03:59 PM   #18
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Not something I would do. it needs to be tuned even at 5 psi. and to do that you need somekind of tuning ability. the easiest way is a chipped ECU and tune with crome.
well, now that we have all the technology it is best to tune at 5psi.......but you know that wasn't the case back then. Most folks used to just put turbo's on at 5psi or a little more and still get around without ecu chipping............until someone suggests to weld the wastegate shut...LOL ha ha ha I bet Brian remembers that....

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WOW! check out that piping


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haha damn must be methanol injected since we see no intercooler device. ;) Pretty funny story!


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haha damn must be methanol injected since we see no intercooler device. ;) Pretty funny story!
Ha ha, no methanol on this one. Actually I believe this was done between 2002-3 by our buddy josh...pictured right. He was doing a budget boost and managed to get all this put together for less then $300 bucks and no tuning. All was done at first using small check valves and hoses and on the second revision the fmu was thrown in since he got it for dirt cheap. Used a dsm stock turbo and although the piping wasnt up to todays "standards" he was going for power and not brownie points.....LOL
Now with todays tuning abilities even 5 psi of boost can use a little tuning and you won't have to use dinosaur parts...lol We just didn't have this available at the time and the companies that did have it made it "out of reach" for penny pinchers. Now even my grandma can tune her shit if she wanted too......ha ha

Now that's a true story!!! LOL ha ha


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Ha ha, no methanol on this one. Actually I believe this was done between 2002-3 by our buddy josh...pictured right. He was doing a budget boost and managed to get all this put together for less then $300 bucks and no tuning. All was done at first using small check valves and hoses and on the second revision the fmu was thrown in since he got it for dirt cheap. Used a dsm stock turbo and although the piping wasnt up to todays "standards" he was going for power and not brownie points.....LOL
Now with todays tuning abilities even 5 psi of boost can use a little tuning and you won't have to use dinosaur parts...lol We just didn't have this available at the time and the companies that did have it made it "out of reach" for penny pinchers. Now even my grandma can tune her shit if she wanted too......ha ha

Now that's a true story!!! LOL ha ha
Finish the whole story Rodnie.......you made me laugh this morning and I thank you for that.....can't wait til Brian gets in this morning to see it.

Here I'll finish it..........I think the time period was a little before that tho, anyway. So some guy was giving Josh shit that this car couldn't make the power or beat some car. So one of the two, Brian or Josh got the bright idea to weld the wastegate shut!!!!! Needless to say, it made the power......ONCE!!! Spread the internals all over Army Post Road....it was fucking hilarious!!!!!!


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Finish the whole story Rodnie.......you made me laugh this morning and I thank you for that.....can't wait til Brian gets in this morning to see it.

Here I'll finish it..........I think the time period was a little before that tho, anyway. So some guy was giving Josh shit that this car couldn't make the power or beat some car. So one of the two, Brian or Josh got the bright idea to weld the wastegate shut!!!!! Needless to say, it made the power......ONCE!!! Spread the internals all over Army Post Road....it was fucking hilarious!!!!!!
Yes it was........cylinder one was shattered I believe and the piston looked like it was put through a grinder....lol We all had to go out there and see if we could pick up the parts off the road!!! Cold as morning when it happened too.....lol

Brian looks so damn young........and the look they both had on that picture was like they were thinking: "What if we welded the wastegate shut?" LOL


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call me a noob for this one but if i am running a pretty much stock car, how much would i get from chipping it and tuning it?


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call me a noob for this one but if i am running a pretty much stock car, how much would i get from chipping it and tuning it?

Wouldn't be worth it to me. You might improve gas mileage and gain 1-5 hp (estimate) but I couldn't image it being anything too significant (then again I am not a tuner but just can't see pulling much more numbers out of your stock set up)


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